[Code Monkey]

This thread will be for clarity on the purpose of vBulletin Modder and rules governing participation in this community. Particular items may be added or removed as time and events unfold.

vBulletin Modder is primarily a free community of vBulletin webmasters. It is the hope and intent of this community that members will help each other with vBulletin issues in a positive and supportive manor. You don't need to be a coder or so called "guru" to have something to offer your fellow members. Whether you have launched one or a thousand vBulletin powered sites, your experience has value and you will also need help at some time. So join in the sharing and the gleaning of a growing resource for vBulletin webmasters. Without your contributions vBulletin Modder will simply become another worthless website stuck in the web.

This site is financially supported by contributions of its membership and through affiliate and ad revenue. As an added incentive, I have made my mods available to supporters only. All member contributed mods and hacks are free to active members of this community. Hopefully this free resource will grow and will become the emphasis of everyone's attention.

If you are purchasing a subscription to merely gain access to my mods then there are some things you need to know first. Purchasing a subscription is a donation to the upkeep of this site and its intent is for members to be able to help and get something in return. No warranty or satisfaction is implied or offered. It is not designed to make money and it is not intended to sell mods to strangers. So be warned, all posting rules on this forum apply. You will not be able to download any files until all active membership requirements are met. At this time this only implies two contributions to an active discussion. Or the creation of a new discussions.

What is a contribution to an active discussion? This is a discussion forum and its purpose is the discussion of vBulletin and its modification. So engage in useful discussion and you will be fine. Making useless posts like "thanks for that" or similar non contributory spam will be deleted. Of course there is the usual double standard. This applies to new members who obviously are only trying to gain access to free mods and make several of these posts in a few minutes time. Established members who have made useful posts and contributions to this site will not have such posts deleted but are encouraged to spare the resources as they would hope their own members would as well. It will be at the administrator or moderator?s discretion on what constitutes post spam.

Registering at this site for any reason other than to engage in useful vBulletin webmaster discussion is considered a valid reason for banning. Some possible scenarios are suggested below. And there are probably others that are not covered or have not happened yet.

If you are an active established member of this community and you suddenly wish to tell me, I'm an idiot, that's fine. If you register and your first post is about my idiocy it will be deleted. If you decide to continue on this path you will be banned. You're not a member of this community and we don't really care what you think and you are not entitled to an opinion. So move along, we don?t care.

If you register to post spam advertising, you of course will be banned.

If you attack another member, you may be banned. If you have problems with another member your only options are to contact me or a mod (and it better be valid), ignore them, handle it privately or turn the other cheek. Don?t bring troubles from other sites to this one.

If it comes to the attention of the staff that you are involved in any illegal activities then you will be banned.

For the most part, if you behave like you want members of your site to behave, then you should have no problems.

That's all for now.

The Staff

Addendum 1: If you post releases, (code, styles, or anything) that are not yours to post then you will be banned.

Addendum 2: Due to all the self centered spammers that over work the staff at vBulletin Modder, anyone with under 2 posts will have their posts moderated. Once you have 2 posts approved then you will automatically be promoted to community member and you may post without approval. This is an inconvenience but a minor one. I'm sure 99% of all posts will be approved in a short time.

Having said that. I went through the list and promoted people with less than 5 posts whom I know or are known in the community. And we will continue to make these exceptions in the future.

This will help keep the site clean and we can deal with spammers before you ever have to see thier handy work.

[Loco]

Very well put my man, I can totally understand where you're coming from. It cracks me up that some ppl or usually "kids" think that you are trying to strike it rich with selling a subscription for 20$ apop.

This site is here to help this exact type of person because they are usually new to vBulletin and will have a Lot of questions on how they can modify their new websites. Usually the more veteran webmaster can understand the atmosphere of vBModder, and know that CM isn't trying to retire with 20$ programs..

Anyways, you know I'm here for you and will do what I can to help out. It's really up to all you guest that are looking over this site, thinking about joining.

You can Make a Difference

sorry for the lame tagline..lol

[G_Man]

Nice post boss.

I think that most everything you have said is something that we've all known, but weren't sure of. There it is now in black and white for us all to affirm.

As you mentioned, I for one have recieved far more help than I've given. However, even as a novice Admin I've noticed two phenomenon. One is that almost every question I've had, dozens of others have had the same question and just hadn't asked. So, even by 'getting' help, I've helped others. The other thing I've noticed is on those few occasions I've been able to help I have learned from the experience myself and also felt pretty good about putting back into the system.

There are dozens of bigger sites out there dealing with vBulletin sites and Mods and modifications. I have found myself entrenched here because I truly believe that Code Monkey has a great model for a help site and the ethics to continue down this high road, even when times are slow.

Cheers to Code Monkey and vBulletin Modder. And here's to a long successful stint on the web.

[Code Monkey]

Helping others is it's own reward.

[Eric]

Not much I can add to that. Have had a helpforum for years and money isn't the driving part. If it was, you'd be a private consultant with a fee/hour...
And the fee yo ask here will never ever cover the hours you spend in here helping others.
Sometimes I wonder if people understand they also can help each other without havng the red, blue color And as said, there are many not daring to ask but so happy when they read 'their' problem with a solution.
That's our birden, how many times do we help someone without even knowig it
Anyway, now the rules are clear for all, and what the subscriptions will help pay.
Let's now go on with what we all love, the net and Vbulletin.
The few moron will be handle with
Thanks CM for havng this place for all of us,

[Ohiosweetheart]

VERY well put. I wish you and vBModder all the best!

[Code Monkey]

Added a little addendum for an issue that came up in the past few days.

[Code Monkey]

Addendum 2: Due to all the self centered spammers that over work the staff at vBulletin Modder, anyone with under 10 posts will have their posts moderated. Once you have 10 posts approved then you will automatically be promoted to community member and you may post without approval. This is an inconvenience but a minor one. I'm sure 99% of all posts will be approved in a short time.

Having said that. I went through the list and promoted people with less than 10 posts whom I know or are known in the community. And we will continue to make these exceptions in the future.

This will help keep the site clean and we can deal with spammers before you ever have to see thier handy work.

[G_Man]

Originally Posted by Code Monkey

Addendum 2: Due to all the self centered spammers that over work the staff at vBulletin Modder, anyone with under 10 posts will have their posts moderated. Once you have 10 posts approved then you will automatically be promoted to community member and you may post without approval. This is an inconvenience but a minor one. I'm sure 99% of all posts will be approved in a short time.

Having said that. I went through the list and promoted people with less than 10 posts whom I know or are known in the community. And we will continue to make these exceptions in the future.

This will help keep the site clean and we can deal with spammers before you ever have to see thier handy work.

Brilliant Idea Code Monkey!

[Eric]

well, one step further in the 'war' against those pesty people. Well.. off to the mod button and to some reading..

[PostMaster]

I'm not a spammer and understand, does this have to enclude paying customers I'll try to post ten posts, Just don't know how busy I am in life, I really like this weather thing you guys have. I'm sure to get this soon when

[Code Monkey]

First of all, we have no paying customers. We have active members who wish to participate in the exchange of knowledge and ideas here. Some of those wish to support this site and in return, they get access to some of my silly mods. People that come here specifically for those mods are not going to get any extra benefit or privledge. In fact, we discourage it. That's not a valid reason to register for this community.

As far as spammers. That also includes people who post worthless drivel, bump old threads to say thanks, or pretty much do anything that suites their purpose in being here without regards to the community. That will not be tolerated.

So if that's not you then make yourself at home and get to work making your vBulletin forum a better place while at the same time making this one a better as well.

[G_Man]

Originally Posted by PostMaster

I'm not a spammer and understand, does this have to enclude paying customers I'll try to post ten posts, Just don't know how busy I am in life, I really like this weather thing you guys have. I'm sure to get this soon when

Originally Posted by Code Monkey

First of all, we have no paying customers. We have active members who wish to participate in the exchange of knowledge and ideas here. Some of those wish to support this site and in return, they get access to some of my silly mods. People that come here specifically for those mods are not going to get any extra benefit or privledge. In fact, we discourage it. That's not a valid reason to register for this community.

As far as spammers. That also includes people who post worthless drivel, bump old threads to say thanks, or pretty much do anything that suites their purpose in being here without regards to the community. That will not be tolerated.

So if that's not you then make yourself at home and get to work making your vBulletin forum a better place while at the same time making this one a better as well.

Let me add that I also questioned the posting rule, wondering how I'd ever come up with 10 posts!

Now I have over 300 posts and I am a Moderator. I even get free virtual banana everytime I delete a spam post. The benefits of posting here are endless!! LOL

[PostMaster]

Originally Posted by Code Monkey

First of all, we have no paying customers. We have active members who wish to participate in the exchange of knowledge and ideas here. Some of those wish to support this site and in return, they get access to some of my silly mods. People that come here specifically for those mods are not going to get any extra benefit or privledge. In fact, we discourage it. That's not a valid reason to register for this community.

I'm sorry I can't be a very active member to your boards (perhaps tech support for computers) I did tell one member about this place which is doing work for me now (Syrus XL Media) I'm not a coder or a designer, I'm per say in baby steps with all this not alone can't help much other members when I need help my self. I quess I took it wrong when I paid for a subscription and for that I will say sorry.

I didn't join for no reason, I like your forum and what it can offer, I want to learn and add to my forums a better ideal place to hang out

As far as spammers. That also includes people who post worthless drivel, bump old threads to say thanks, or pretty much do anything that suites their purpose in being here without regards to the community. That will not be tolerated.

Perhaps there will always be those people out there that will add to a thread and it's just not worth anything to that thread at all, I deal with that over my forums, so I can relate

So if that's not you then make yourself at home and get to work making your vBulletin forum a better place while at the same time making this one a better as well.

No that's not me, I do start my own threads, little games like but I don't go around posting just to say thanks which doesn't add to a thread any help unless it has really seriousally helped me but then again I can pm the person to say thanks. Again very much sorry I took the subscription wrong. I'm sure this place is a blessing for many and will do my best to post to your wishes.
Good day

Jay

[Code Monkey]

Asking questions about vBulletin and your needs in configuring it is help to this community. Others will come along and hopefully see your question answered. If it is also their questions then you have helped this community while helping yourself.

You don't have to be an expert to contribute to this community. You just have to have an interest in making your vBulletin forum better. That's why we are here. Unfortunately we don't have the luxury of the license verification system of jelsoft. So we have to protect ourselves in other ways.

People should keep in mind that at the so called "official" mod site, you need to pay a lot of money to get in and $30 a year to keep getting in. Here, it simply takes 10 ordinary posts on a discussion forum. Since we are all webmasters of discussion forums, that shouldn't be too hard.

[Eric]

And don't think not being a coder means you can't help out. ME = coding nill expert

I know mostly my way to install products on vBulletin but code one on my own ??? no way for now. Though by often installing hacks I need to correct style problems etc.. and bit by bit I learn more and more each day. And often by searching for replies on forums like this one. As said the reply on someone else's problem is often solving my ohhh so big problem.

[Code Monkey]

Since testing has shown that this will stop ad spammers dead in their tracks, I have reduced the requirement to 5 posts. Once you have 5 posts approved you can post away without moderation. Yesterday we had someone (most likely a bot) post 27 phone spams. One each 30 seconds. Not one got through and I was able to ban the user and delete all posts with no effort or annoyance to the rest of us.

As there seems to be some confusion as to what will not get through the moderation let me clarify. A normal question or conversation is not considered spam. Posting "Thanks", "Cool dude" "LLKSDZZZZO" or other such spam to get access is what we consider useless and spam. Not that complicted and also not a problem for honest members.

[kevbroughton]

i will do my best to help our around the stie if you let me know what to do.

I will post 10 posts and reply to problem i know the answers to.